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solar — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:45:02 +0000

Reply by solar, Thursday, July 01, 2004, 16:45:

Possible Hoax. No links, but very well written articles. I'm calling it propaganda, unless someone provides me with a link to both articles. Notice that these wires normally start out with the name and date of the releasing news service. All it says on these are the location and name of the author, nothing more. "Hong Kong" doesn't mean anything to me, unless it's the name of the news service.

Trust me, China will NOT attack Taiwan for the foreseeable future. Both countries are making way too much money building china's infrastructure. China would be shooting themselves in the foot, hand, stomach, etc. if they attacked Taiwan. Capital inflow would go negative, and everything built over the last 20 years would reverse. The U.S. knows this. It's all saber rattling folks. The U.S. Navy is out to sea for another reason...

: Seven aircraft carriers to move within striking distance of
: China; Taiwan forces slated to join in drill

: US plans huge show of force in Pacific
: By Ching Cheong (HONG KONG)

: The United States is planning a massive show of force in the
: Pacific Ocean near China to register a point with Beijing.

: In an exercise codenamed Operation Summer Pulse 04, it is
: expected to arrange for an unprecedented seven aircraft
: carrier strike groups (CSGs) to rendezvous in waters a safe
: distance away from the Chinese coastline - but still within
: striking distance - after mid-July.

: This will be the first time in US naval history that it sends
: seven of its 12 CSGs to just one region.

: According to a Department of Defence statement, Summer Pulse
: is to test out a new Fleet Response Plan (FRP) aimed at
: enhancing the American Navy's combat power and readiness in
: a time of crisis.

: The FRP calls for the despatching of six 'forward deployed' or
: 'ready to surge' CSGs to a trouble spot within 30 days, and
: an additional two within 90 days.

: Although the statement does not say where the seven CSGs will
: exercise, the Status of the Navy website said the USS Carl
: Vinson, Abraham Lincoln, John C Stennis and Kitty Hawk were
: in the Pacific Ocean as of yesterday.

: The USS Enterprise and Harry Truman are in the Atlantic Ocean
: while USS George Washington is in the Persian Gulf.

: According to a posting on Sina.com, an influential website in
: China, the signs point to a gathering of all seven CSGs in
: the Pacific.

: Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is
: being mounted with it as the target audience, a suspicion
: reinforced by reports that Taiwanese forces are slated to
: join in the drill.

: Clearly, given Beijing's repeated warning that it will use
: force, as a last resort and whatever the cost, to stop
: Taiwanese independence, the US feels it needs to send
: Beijing a message.

: From past deployment patterns, the US usually despatches one
: CSG to a trouble spot as a reminder of its presence.

: It did so several times in the past when tension was high in
: the Taiwan Strait.

: It sends two to indicate serious concern, as was the case when
: China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

: In a combat situation, it deploys three to four, which was
: what it did in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the
: recent Iraqi war.

: But never before has it sent in peace time seven CSGs to the
: same theatre.

: The implications for China are grave.

: (SNIP)
: Politically, Summer Pulse is likely to be seen by many Chinese
: as naked intimidation.

: 'This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st century,' the source
: remarked, adding that it would remind the Chinese people of
: their century-long deep humiliation by Western powers - and
: put Sino-US relations at peril.

: WHAT THE NUMBERS MEAN: ONE aircraft carrier is sent to a
: trouble spot as a reminder of US presence. This was done
: several times in the past, when tension was high in the
: Taiwan Strait.

: TWO carriers show serious concern, as was the case when China
: test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

: THREE OR FOUR are sent in combat situations - as in the Gulf
: War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

: Sending SEVEN carriers in peace time to the same region is
: unprecedented. The US plan to do this after mid-July, in
: the Pacific Ocean near China, is a message to Beijing for
: its threat to use force to stop Taiwanese independence.

UNITED STATES TEMPTING CHINA INTO WWIII? PIC

GlobalExodus — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:10:44 +0000

Reply by GlobalExodus, Thursday, July 01, 2004, 16:10:

Seven aircraft carriers to move within striking distance of China; Taiwan forces slated to join in drill

US plans huge show of force in Pacific
By Ching Cheong (HONG KONG)

The United States is planning a massive show of force in the Pacific Ocean near China to register a point with Beijing.

In an exercise codenamed Operation Summer Pulse 04, it is expected to arrange for an unprecedented seven aircraft carrier strike groups (CSGs) to rendezvous in waters a safe distance away from the Chinese coastline - but still within striking distance - after mid-July.

This will be the first time in US naval history that it sends seven of its 12 CSGs to just one region.

According to a Department of Defence statement, Summer Pulse is to test out a new Fleet Response Plan (FRP) aimed at enhancing the American Navy's combat power and readiness in a time of crisis.

The FRP calls for the despatching of six 'forward deployed' or 'ready to surge' CSGs to a trouble spot within 30 days, and an additional two within 90 days.

Although the statement does not say where the seven CSGs will exercise, the Status of the Navy website said the USS Carl Vinson, Abraham Lincoln, John C Stennis and Kitty Hawk were in the Pacific Ocean as of yesterday.

The USS Enterprise and Harry Truman are in the Atlantic Ocean while USS George Washington is in the Persian Gulf.

According to a posting on Sina.com, an influential website in China, the signs point to a gathering of all seven CSGs in the Pacific.

Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is being mounted with it as the target audience, a suspicion reinforced by reports that Taiwanese forces are slated to join in the drill.

Clearly, given Beijing's repeated warning that it will use force, as a last resort and whatever the cost, to stop Taiwanese independence, the US feels it needs to send Beijing a message.

From past deployment patterns, the US usually despatches one CSG to a trouble spot as a reminder of its presence.

It did so several times in the past when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.

It sends two to indicate serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

In a combat situation, it deploys three to four, which was what it did in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

But never before has it sent in peace time seven CSGs to the same theatre.

The implications for China are grave.

(SNIP)
Politically, Summer Pulse is likely to be seen by many Chinese as naked intimidation.

'This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st century,' the source remarked, adding that it would remind the Chinese people of their century-long deep humiliation by Western powers - and put Sino-US relations at peril.

WHAT THE NUMBERS MEAN:

ONE aircraft carrier is sent to a trouble spot as a reminder of US presence. This was done several times in the past, when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.

TWO carriers show serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

THREE OR FOUR are sent in combat situations - as in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

Sending SEVEN carriers in peace time to the same region is unprecedented. The US plan to do this after mid-July, in the Pacific Ocean near China, is a message to Beijing for its threat to use force to stop Taiwanese independence.

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US NAVY PLANS HUGE SHOW OF FORCE IN PACIFIC PIC

Netking — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:56:20 +0000

Posting by Netking, Thursday, July 01, 2004, 05:56:

HONG KONG - The United States is planning a massive show of force in the Pacific Ocean near China to register a point with Beijing.

This will be the first time in US naval history that it sends seven of its 12 CSGs to just one region....

....Sources in Beijing say China's reading is that Summer Pulse is being mounted with it as the target audience, a suspicion reinforced by reports that Taiwanese forces are slated to join in the drill.

Clearly, given Beijing's repeated warning that it will use force, as a last resort and whatever the cost, to stop Taiwanese independence, the US feels it needs to send Beijing a message.

From past deployment patterns, the US usually despatches one CSG to a trouble spot as a reminder of its presence.

It did so several times in the past when tension was high in the Taiwan Strait.

It sends two to indicate serious concern, as was the case when China test-fired missiles over the strait in 1996.

In a combat situation, it deploys three to four, which was what it did in the Gulf War in the early 1990s and the recent Iraqi war.

But never before has it sent in peace time seven CSGs to the same theatre.

The implications for China are grave....

....According to Kanwa Defence News, which specialises in Chinese military matters, Beijing can cope with just one CSG currently.

'But in five to 10 years, it can certainly take on seven,' said Mr Chang Hong-yi, head of Kanwa, in an interview with The Straits Times.

'China's military potential is enormous and in terms of military technology, the gap with the US is closing fast,' he added.

However, a Chinese military source who declined to be identified is more sanguine.

'Even now, China can easily take on two CSGs,' he said but conceded that there was no way it could face seven all at the same time.

This means that if China has to wage war over Taiwan, it has to be able to land and seize control of the island within the first 30 days...."

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